ched evans

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should he be allowed to return to football, i say yes. has he paid his debt to society - yes. is he the victim of a witch-hunt - yes.

if luke mccormick can kill two people and be allowed to return to football with nothing said then so must ched

I don't need the high ground, I'm always right

And people that drink too much quite regularly claim to hospital staff or police officers that they have had their drinks spike. Very difficult to prove, and much easier to tell friends and relatives rather than admitting you can't handle your drink and emberrassed yourself on a high street. It doesn't mean she was sober though, and it definetely doesn't mean she consented to any actions.

McDonald is a weird one, no doubt about it. It isn't aganst the realms of possibility that she consented with him and Evans got involved without 'real' permission. But then you could argue she was sober enough to consent once so why not twice. But it just gets way too complicated.

To end this discussion on a serious note - why anybody ever fancies having sloppy seconds is beyond me.

Never mind seconds - they both took multiple turns. I have wondered at what point it becomes weirdly homoerotic