Goodbye Malky

Southampton 3-0 Cardiff

27 minutes gone. Truly awful.

That's what I'm thinking too.

Good man, says all the right rheotric and will one day be a top, top manager. Perhaps the premier league has come a little too soon for him?

But hang on James, let's see if he can turn this one around.

What's Malky going to use to turn the match around with....a magic wand? Perhaps now you just might be able to see where Tan is coming from. Think Tan is more than justified to be a little upset with Malky when you consider the money spent and our standing in the league table.

porgie wrote:What's Malky going to use to turn the match around with....a magic wand? Perhaps now you just might be able to see where Tan is coming from. Think Tan is more than justified to be a little upset with Malky when you consider the money spent and our standing in the league table.

100% agree. If I was Tan i'd be livid with Malky's expenditure. Medel and Cornelius, £20m, didn't even start today. Sorry but when you come up from the Championship and spend mass amounts they should be the first names on the team sheet unless they're injured. Cornelius obviously wasn't as he played second half and Medel hasn't been reported as injured.

Malky's only good signing and consistent signing has been Caulker at this level. Theo has gone missing allowing us to be countered, Medel the same, both also have been sloppy in possession and Odemwingie plays when it suits him. Caulker has been consistent but he's no miracle worker. He's also chipped in with goals. We'd be well in the rubbish without his contribution.

Apart from ours, some frightening results today........

Sunderland win at Everton......
Palace win at Villa......
Fulham win at Norwich.......
Newcastle stick 5 on Stoke.......(shows how bad we/they really are....)

TDA wrote:Apart from ours, some frightening results today........

Sunderland win at Everton......
Palace win at Villa......
Fulham win at Norwich.......
Newcastle stick 5 on Stoke.......(shows how bad they really are....)

I've got us, Fulham and Stoke to go down. Uninspiring, boring, anti football.

All I hope is we change soon enough and it works. We might then be able to dig ourselves out of any trouble.

No matter who will be at the managerial helm come January lets just hope that Tan makes funds available for new recruits because without them we'll definitely be playing Championship football come the new season.

porgie wrote:No matter who will be at the managerial helm come January lets just hope that Tan makes funds available for new recruits because without them we'll definitely be playing Championship football come the new season.

I'm afraid you're right, but where do you start after a performance like that?

porgie wrote:No matter who will be at the managerial helm come January lets just hope that Tan makes funds available for new recruits because without them we'll definitely be playing Championship football come the new season.

Agreed. Either way, if we go down, administration looms. I think Tan will bail then and invest elsewhere to make up his losses with us. He's an investor after all. Sometimes they don't work out and you need an investment that does work out to balance the books. All of the largest investment portfolios out there have failures on them. No doubt about it.

All we can hope is Tan brings in a new man and backs him and if we go down at least we went down trying to right to stay up rather than with a whimper. Regardless of how we go down, I suspect if we do, we could well be back at square one or even worse. Fans need to now prepare themselves for that scenario as the chances of that becoming a reality increase with every point dropped.

Im not bothered either way. A Premier League circus with an owner who doesn't understand the game or a Championship team struggling where things are more transparent? Both have their positives. Both have their negatives. I think fans need to stop attacking others for the side they align with. We'll all, as human beings, do what we feel is right for us and the club we support.

Rule number one of investment management......"never take out your money at a loss!"

Tan won't "cut his losses", as his basic ideology was sound....i.e. find a club with a good fan base and make it successful.......nothing has changed, but he should have revised the management structure earlier.

It may take a bit more money in compensation and new players, but the squad is not that far off being good enough to survive this first season. If he can keep City up, then and only then, does he have a saleable asset.

We have looked as good as others in this division at times this season, but the life has been strangled out of the team........

TDA wrote:Rule number one of investment management......"never take out your money at a loss!"

Tan won't "cut his losses", as his basic ideology was sound....i.e. find a club with a good fan base and make it successful.......nothing has changed, but  he should have revised the management structure earlier.

It may take a bit more money in compensation and new players, but the squad is not that far off being good enough to survive this first season.  If he can keep City up, then and only then, does he have a saleable asset.

We have looked as good as others in this division at times this season, but the life has been strangled out of the team........

If he invests more in the summer and we get relegated then it is in his best interests to sell all of our major assets, use them to pay off the loans the club owe him and then leave with a small loss which is likely, unless he can find a buyer. Other than that, he has to continue funding a club in the second tier and has to invest more to take us back up. Investors don't just keep ploughing more and more in and hope for their fortunes to turn, clever ones don't at all. They get out whilst they can and then start a new project and hope it works out better.

Nobodies portfolio is full of great investments. Every dragon in the den has had a bad investment and whilst not on the scale of these they have had them. They've had plenty of great ones as well which offset those losses. Tan won't care about whats left but how to minimise his losses so that its easier to make it up elsewhere.

Tan is not going to want to keep ploughing his money into a Championship team thats losing money every month. Factor in player valuations dropping also with what they'd be at PL level.

I understand what you say, but exactly what saleable assets does the club have?

The players, of course, but we know a number of those are overvalued and with others their value is dropping with every poor game. I doubt whether the open market value of the entire squad is £30m.

No, the true value in Cardiff City is in the main the television money from Premier League survival. Everything else follows on the back of the club's exposure worldwide.

Post match, Malky has said that the team is where he expected to be at this stage of the season. He also said that points have been dropped where they shouldn't have.

Not a positive outlook if that continues to happen, as there doesn't seem to be many points being picked up where we don't expect to!

According to AAMB, meeting between Tan & Malky scheduled for today......  

Whatever the outcome, let's hope it brings some stability and confidence to the club.

Dragging on now back him or sack him,