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PostTDA Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:21 am

I was born in Wales, so 100%

My parents were both born in Wales, so still 100%

All four of my grandparents were born in Wales, so still 100%

Of my eight great-grandparents, five were born in Wales, one in Ireland and two in England, so does that suddenly make me 62.5% Welsh?

I'd propose a 50% reduction/dilution factor for the effect of each generation, so by going back three generations to the great grand-parents, the non-Welsh element of 37.5% is actually reduced to 4.7%, making me 95.3% Welsh...........I can live with that!

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PostCyncoedslumdog Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:36 am

Two Welsh parents & three Welsh grandparents with my paternal grandfather being Greek. Not sure what that makes me other than slightly greasy.
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PostTDA Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:46 am

Using my formula, I make you 93.75% Welsh and 6.25% donner kebab....... How Welsh are you? 692773407
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PostCyncoedslumdog Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:57 am

Erm, thanks.
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PostThe Tonker Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:26 pm

It surely depends on how many generations you go back, doesn't it?

Of my great-grandparents, 7 were Welsh and 1 was English.

If I go back one more generation, of my 16 great-great-grandparents, 10 were Welsh, 4 English, 2 Irish.

I dont have a slide rule to hand, but what difference does that make in TDA's mysterious formula?
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PostTDA Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:33 pm

The Tonker wrote:It surely depends on how many generations you go back, doesn't it?

Of my great-grandparents, 7 were Welsh and 1 was English.

If I go back one more generation, of my 16 great-great-grandparents, 10 were Welsh, 4 English, 2 Irish.

I dont have a slide rule to hand, but what difference does that make in TDA's mysterious formula?


To a certain extent, I am making this up as I go along, but what I had in mind was to go back until you hit a genertaion that wasn't 100% Welsh. Assuming that your parents and grandparents were all Welsh, like me, we take your great-grandparents as the reference point.............in which case, you come out at 98.4% Welsh and 1.6% English.

I suppose we could go back to your great-great-grandparents, but we would then be carrying back a value of less than 100%......all gets a bit complicated...... scratch
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PostThe Tonker Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:09 pm

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The Tonker wrote:It surely depends on how many generations you go back, doesn't it?

Of my great-grandparents, 7 were Welsh and 1 was English.

If I go back one more generation, of my 16 great-great-grandparents, 10 were Welsh, 4 English, 2 Irish.

I dont have a slide rule to hand, but what difference does that make in TDA's mysterious formula?


To a certain extent, I am making this up as I go along, but what I had in mind was to go back until you hit a genertaion that wasn't 100% Welsh.  Assuming that your parents and grandparents were all Welsh, like me, we take your great-grandparents as the reference point.............in which case, you come out at 98.4% Welsh and 1.6% English.

I suppose we could go back to your great-great-grandparents, but we would then be carrying back a value of less than 100%......all gets a bit complicated...... scratch

98.4% sounds good to me.

But just to complicate things, our two offspring have all 8 great grandparents who were Welsh - so are we saying that they are more Welsh than me - even though I was actually born in Wales whereas they (because we live in the border country) were born in England? How Welsh are you? 4228682415
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PostArkay Dubya Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:20 pm

You need to make this a definitive algorithm TDA How Welsh are you? 1525230823 How Welsh are you? 692773407
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PostThe Tonker Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:47 pm

It could be called the TDA DNA Random Number Generator....
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PostTDA Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:52 pm

The Tonker wrote:
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The Tonker wrote:It surely depends on how many generations you go back, doesn't it?

Of my great-grandparents, 7 were Welsh and 1 was English.

If I go back one more generation, of my 16 great-great-grandparents, 10 were Welsh, 4 English, 2 Irish.

I dont have a slide rule to hand, but what difference does that make in TDA's mysterious formula?


To a certain extent, I am making this up as I go along, but what I had in mind was to go back until you hit a genertaion that wasn't 100% Welsh.  Assuming that your parents and grandparents were all Welsh, like me, we take your great-grandparents as the reference point.............in which case, you come out at 98.4% Welsh and 1.6% English.

I suppose we could go back to your great-great-grandparents, but we would then be carrying back a value of less than 100%......all gets a bit complicated...... scratch

98.4% sounds good to me.

But just to complicate things, our two offspring have all 8 great grandparents who were Welsh - so are we saying that they are more Welsh than me - even though I was actually born in Wales whereas they (because we live in the border country) were born in England? How Welsh are you? 4228682415

Are you sure that you are not me, as we have the same situation? Both children born in Glos, our son regards himself Welsh, our daughter says that she is definitely English. I would say that our son and your children could be regarded as 50% Welsh......our daughter......goodness only knows where she came from........... How Welsh are you? 3392635135
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PostThe Tonker Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:33 am

TDA wrote:
The Tonker wrote:
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The Tonker wrote:It surely depends on how many generations you go back, doesn't it?

Of my great-grandparents, 7 were Welsh and 1 was English.

If I go back one more generation, of my 16 great-great-grandparents, 10 were Welsh, 4 English, 2 Irish.

I dont have a slide rule to hand, but what difference does that make in TDA's mysterious formula?


To a certain extent, I am making this up as I go along, but what I had in mind was to go back until you hit a genertaion that wasn't 100% Welsh.  Assuming that your parents and grandparents were all Welsh, like me, we take your great-grandparents as the reference point.............in which case, you come out at 98.4% Welsh and 1.6% English.

I suppose we could go back to your great-great-grandparents, but we would then be carrying back a value of less than 100%......all gets a bit complicated...... scratch

98.4% sounds good to me.

But just to complicate things, our two offspring have all 8 great grandparents who were Welsh - so are we saying that they are more Welsh than me - even though I was actually born in Wales whereas they (because we live in the border country) were born in England? How Welsh are you? 4228682415

Are you sure that you are not me, as we have the same situation?  Both children born in Glos, our son regards himself Welsh, our daughter says that she is definitely English.  I would say that our son and your children could be regarded as 50% Welsh......our daughter......goodness only knows where she came from........... How Welsh are you? 3392635135
It does indeed sound very similar....kids born in Bristol, son has always regarded himself as Welsh, daughter used to swear she's English, but more recently has seen the light and decided she's Welsh (probably owing to an English boyfriend).

You don't, by any chance, support Cardiff City do you?
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PostTDA Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:08 am

The Tonker wrote:
TDA wrote:
The Tonker wrote:
TDA wrote:
The Tonker wrote:It surely depends on how many generations you go back, doesn't it?

Of my great-grandparents, 7 were Welsh and 1 was English.

If I go back one more generation, of my 16 great-great-grandparents, 10 were Welsh, 4 English, 2 Irish.

I dont have a slide rule to hand, but what difference does that make in TDA's mysterious formula?


To a certain extent, I am making this up as I go along, but what I had in mind was to go back until you hit a genertaion that wasn't 100% Welsh.  Assuming that your parents and grandparents were all Welsh, like me, we take your great-grandparents as the reference point.............in which case, you come out at 98.4% Welsh and 1.6% English.

I suppose we could go back to your great-great-grandparents, but we would then be carrying back a value of less than 100%......all gets a bit complicated...... scratch

98.4% sounds good to me.

But just to complicate things, our two offspring have all 8 great grandparents who were Welsh - so are we saying that they are more Welsh than me - even though I was actually born in Wales whereas they (because we live in the border country) were born in England? How Welsh are you? 4228682415

Are you sure that you are not me, as we have the same situation?  Both children born in Glos, our son regards himself Welsh, our daughter says that she is definitely English.  I would say that our son and your children could be regarded as 50% Welsh......our daughter......goodness only knows where she came from........... How Welsh are you? 3392635135
It does indeed sound very similar....kids born in Bristol, son has always regarded himself as Welsh, daughter used to swear she's English, but more recently has seen the light and decided she's Welsh (probably owing to an English boyfriend).

You don't, by any chance, support Cardiff City do you?

Not something I normally admit to in polite company............ How Welsh are you? 692773407
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PostCyncoedslumdog Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:16 pm

It's ok. You're not in polite company.
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PostSlimfrog's Son™ Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:01 am

Welsh father, Northern Irish mother, two Welsh grandparents, two Northern Irish grandparents, and a Greek great grandfather. But I was born in Wales.
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PostTDA Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:05 am

Slumdog's Son™️ wrote:Welsh father, Northern Irish mother, two Welsh grandparents, two Northern Irish grandparents, and a Greek great grandfather. But I was born in Wales.

How Welsh are you? 4228682415 Hmmm!

75% Welsh, 25% NI................. How Welsh are you? 635981802 (I think)
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