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Post*** G L O V E S *** Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:29 am

Always nice having a large squad, but we need to have more consistency in the starting lineups.

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PostRhys Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:26 am

I'm personally of the view that I find Ole's squad/tactic rotation very refreshing.

I have found myself moaning over the years that Jones always played the same predictable team with the same predictable formation. Also getting cross that he would leave a substitution too late when losing a game and when he did make a change it would be a straight swap at Left back or something equally absurdly defensive.

Malky was mr conservative too.

I like how Ole, like Mr Van Gaal is the world cup of all places, is willing to be ballsy and make changes if he thinks it will benefit the team.

I'm sure the squad rotation will pay off over the season.
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PostToast Boy Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:49 am

Jones was certainly frustrating when showing little imagination or knowledge of a plan B and a stubborness to do try anything different when things were going wrong. However i couldn't care less if he had only played 11 players all season if those players were playing well and getting the results.

If an unwillingness to change when change is needed is a problem then surely the inability to leave things alone when they don't need changing is a problem too? The intention to be be more attacking and the intention to be fluid in team selections and tactics are only really positives in my view if they can be backed up by what actually happens on the pitch.

I would be happy to applaud the kind of changes Ole made if i could see the point of them before, during or after the game. I didn't see inspired, clever changes to the starting line up which clearly worked and were thwarted by us being unlucky. I just saw needless changes which had so little effect that we only had around 30 something percent of the possession and seemed totally outplayed. We might have had better chances and it might have taken an og at the end to lose us the point but we were poor and i have yet to see any convincing argument that any of the changes that were made in the game were for the better.

Without the tactical awareness to make team changes that actually improve things Ole might as well go the whole hog and add to the excitement by pulling the names for each position out of a hat the day before the game. Maybe rotation of players and constant changes WILL prove to be an effective method over the course of the season but it is going to take performances rather better than Saturday's, both individually and as a team, to convince me of that.
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PostTDA Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:54 am

I am tending to come over to Toastie's way of thinking on this. How many games do you need before you have an idea of what is the best starting lineup. I don't know whether Ole is still looking for that or moving things around to give everyone a game and keep players fresh. This is a big squad, full og quality, but he needs to work out soon, who plays best with who............I think that should be "who plays best with whom", but as Cyncoed isn't around, I think I got away with one!

I guess we will have a better idea of Ole's tactics in two or three games time................... Ole mus stop tinkering 4228682415
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PostCyncoedslumdog Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:13 am

TDA wrote:I am tending to come over to Toastie's way of thinking on this.  How many games do you need before you have an idea of what is the best starting lineup.  I don't know whether Ole is still looking for that or moving things around to give everyone a game and keep players fresh.  This is a big squad, full og quality, but he needs to work out soon, who plays best with who............I think that should be "who plays best with whom", but as Cyncoed isn't around, I think I got away with one!

I guess we will have a better idea of Ole's tactics in two or three games time................... Ole mus stop tinkering 4228682415

I'll let you have that one then.
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PostToast Boy Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:52 am

His interviews seem to suggest he is just rotating to keep players fresh. That is my worry at the moment. Spend the first 10 games or so working out  your best 11 and play them often. Get your shape, get your consistency and THEN begin to take players out for a game or two as needed through tiredness or standards dropping.
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Postpugger Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:55 am

Ollie has all the gear and no idea, sorry but you are all delusional to think he knows what he is doing.

I just hope Tony Pulis is still available when Tan pulls the trigger in a few games time before it is too late.
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PostTDA Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:23 am

Hi again Pugger, good to hear from you again.

I think we are getting concerned, but it is early days with a new squad. Let's make a judgement after 10 games............. Ole mus stop tinkering 1525230823
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PostSteWells Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:25 am

Tony Pulis can f**k right off! I want to watch football, not thuggery.

Ole needs to settle down on the changes, I agree, but to say he has no idea is just plain wrong imo. We're just not used to having a manager who isn't afraid to try new things.
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PostSlimfrog's Son™ Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:38 am

SteWells wrote:Tony Pulis can f**k right off! I want to watch football, not thuggery.

Ole needs to settle down on the changes, I agree, but to say he has no idea is just plain wrong imo. We're just not used to having a manager who isn't afraid to try new things.

I agree with that
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PostTyrion Tannister Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:31 am

With gloves, he needs to settle down and start playing a consistent first team. If results start going downhill he is going to be slaughtered for it, but right now it's working to our advantage a little as teams are a little baffles as to what to expect. My worry is the true regulars - Daehli, Brayford, Whitts, etc, are going to get just as confused. You have to learn how your teammates like to play and support them - learn little things like Jones' preferred service and whether Guerrera likes the ball at his feet or something he can run onto. When you have a different target every week it's difficult to play to their strengths.
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PostCyncoedslumdog Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:01 am

I'd like him to tinker with Ralls starting instead of Whitts. Same left foot balance and shooting ability but looks bothered!
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Postpugger Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:16 am

Don't mind trying new things and credit where credit is due he has done well in the transfer market....but we look unsettled and with the players we have he has no excuse! Ok I take the Pulis comment fair play but we are not playing the attractive passing game and can't keep the ball for more than a couple of passes.

Ollie is a nice guy and I would love him to smash this league, but not with the tactics of making it up as you go along.
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PostTyrion Tannister Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:41 am

pugger wrote:Don't mind trying new things and credit where credit is due he has done well in the transfer market....but we look unsettled and with the players we have he has no excuse! Ok I take the Pulis comment fair play but we are not playing the attractive passing game and can't keep the ball for more than a couple of passes.

Ollie is a nice guy and I would love him to smash this league,  but not with the tactics of making it up as you go along.

Were five games into the new season with only two of our 'regular' starting eleven having been playing regularly for the team this time last year. Fabio, Brayford, Connolly, Morrisson, Pilkington, Daehli, Digakoi, Adeyemi, Jones, Le Fondre, Macheda, Guerrera. All players that have had major parts thus far but either didn't play for us last year or who were taking a backing role. They need time to gel, you should know that.
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Postpugger Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:54 pm

6 games now (not including prem) and you will all come round to my way of thinking soon enough.

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