Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky?

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PostCaer y Glyn Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:06 am

Since he joined us I have been a real fan but all this season despite our relative success I have become increasingly concerned that he is not as good a coach and tactician as his immediate persona would suggest. His failure to respond to successive poor performances in recent months(yes months not weeks) suggests he is gripped by fear and an excessive caution that leads to inertia. Perhaps he lacks the courage that all great managers need?

Malky could be a great gaffer of that I am sure but to get here he perhaps needs to take some advice and then make some bold albeit obvious decisions?

I wonder what Vincent thinks?
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Postthewelshfella Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:35 am

In 2 seasons we have been to a wembley final,made the play off's and this year we have been top of the league most of the season & still are with a game in hand Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 3392635135

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PostCaer y Glyn Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:39 am

Where we end up this season will define Malky's reputation.
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PostArkay Dubya Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:44 am

thewelshfella wrote:In 2 seasons we have been to a wembley final,made the play off's and this year we have been top of the league most of the season & still are with a game in hand Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 3392635135

He is good enough Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 1525230823 imo anyway Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 635981802

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Every manager has their flaws, even the best ones. Doing a class job, I think. Should definitely stay and learn even if - horror of horrors - we don't go up this season.
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PostToast Boy Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:53 am

Malky is certainly showing signs which look like either lack of courage or stubbornness. The problem with stubbornness of course is that whether it is right or wrong depends on how things eventually turn out - and none of us know that yet.

If Malky suddenly went against his own thoughts to drop Whittingham and put Kim into central midfield, moved Bellamy to the wing and brought Mason or Gestede back into the starting line up and the result was a 3-0 defeat he would obviously feel that he should have stuck to his guns and played it safe instead - gone with the basis of the team that has served him well earlier.

I am slightly playing devils advocate here. I like Malky and think he has brought some great things to the club including the more proffesional, behind the scenes, set up. However i do think the team needs shaking up at the moment, that the lack of forward momentum needs to be addressed by trying to change things rather than just hoping things will begin to go right again.

I think Malky will get us over the finishing line. Taking the season in total i would then have to say that he has done a good job for us and will deserve any plaudits coming his way for achieving promotion. I do have doubts though about his lack of response to the poor results and performances of recent weeks.
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PostCaer y Glyn Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:06 am

Toast Boy wrote:Malky is certainly showing signs which look like either lack of courage or stubbornness. The problem with stubbornness of course is that whether it is right or wrong depends on how things eventually turn out - and none of us know that yet.

If Malky suddenly went against his own thoughts to drop Whittingham and put Kim into central midfield, moved Bellamy to the wing and brought Mason or Gestede back into the starting line up and the result was a 3-0 defeat he would obviously feel that he should have stuck to his guns and played it safe instead - gone with the basis of the team that has served him well earlier.

I am slightly playing devils advocate here. I like Malky and think he has brought some great things to the club including the more proffesional, behind the scenes, set up. However i do think the team needs shaking up at the moment, that the lack of forward momentum needs to be addressed by trying to change things rather than just hoping things will begin to go right again.

I think Malky will get us over the finishing line. Taking the season in total i would then have to say that he has done a good job for us and will deserve any plaudits coming his way for achieving promotion. I do have doubts though about his lack of response to the poor results and performances of recent weeks.

There are doubts abroad and there is only one way to dispel those doubts and that is to achieve success hopefully in style. Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 833362651
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PostRhys Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:31 am

thewelshfella wrote:In 2 seasons we have been to a wembley final,made the play off's and this year we have been top of the league most of the season & still are with a game in hand Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 3392635135

He is good enough Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 1525230823 imo anyway Has anyone changed their opinions about Malky? 635981802

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It's hard to argue with that logic to be fair
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PostCaldi Blue Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:16 am

I'm having doubts. I don't understand why he didn't get more defensive cover in January, why he insists on playing Bellamy up front and his refusal to use Kim and Mason more. He's overplayed Whittingham, who is in dire need of a rest and and and, there's probably more stuff.

But yes, as Caer rightly said, he will be defined on where we finish this season.
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PostTyrion Tannister Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:36 am

Thing is top of the league is all
Well and good - but we are also the club with the biggest transfer budget in the league. When you recieved the level of investment we have top of the league is a requisite, not an achievement. Malky already had a playoff spot team - and that was before our multimillion pound war chest arrived.

I genuinely believe 75% of the managers in this league could of done exactly what Malky has done this season, and most of them could of done it better.
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Postthewelshfella Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:41 am

Over the last 2 seasons leicester has spent alot more than we have plus time to bed in there squad and look where they are.





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PostTans Tache Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:45 am

I like malky, Good manager, Could become a managerial legend if he gets us to prem,
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PostTyrion Tannister Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:35 am

thewelshfella wrote:Over the last 2 seasons leicester has spent alot more than we have plus time to bed in there squad and look where they are.

Leicester's similar failure doesn't make our own fallbacks any better. It's like saying Arsenal are having a good season because Liverpool are doing really badly.
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Postdavewebber65 Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:01 am

as most of you well know i have changed my opinions about malky. in view of the thread will set out my views over the w/e
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PostSlimfrog's Son™ Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:03 pm

Red614 wrote:Thing is top of the league is all
Well and good - but we are also the club with the biggest transfer budget in the league. When you recieved the level of investment we have top of the league is a requisite, not an achievement. Malky already had a playoff spot team - and that was before our multimillion pound war chest arrived.

I genuinely believe 75% of the managers in this league could of done exactly what Malky has done this season, and most of them could of done it better.

He didn't inherit a play-off team, they all left when DJ was sacked! And last season he massively over-achieved by getting a team built on current rejects Cowie, Miller, Super Kev and the mystery man Anthony Gerrard into the play-offs.

75% of managers couldn't have done it because we are top of the league and don't have the best squad. The teams with the best squads are below us.

Not that Malky doesn't make mistakes of course!
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PostTyrion Tannister Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:59 pm

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Red614 wrote:Thing is top of the league is all
Well and good - but we are also the club with the biggest transfer budget in the league. When you recieved the level of investment we have top of the league is a requisite, not an achievement. Malky already had a playoff spot team - and that was before our multimillion pound war chest arrived.

I genuinely believe 75% of the managers in this league could of done exactly what Malky has done this season, and most of them could of done it better.

He didn't inherit a play-off team, they all left when DJ was sacked! And last season he massively over-achieved by getting a team built on current rejects Cowie, Miller, Super Kev and the mystery man Anthony Gerrard into the play-offs.

75% of managers couldn't have done it because we are top of the league and don't have the best squad. The teams with the best squads are below us.

Not that Malky doesn't make mistakes of course!

Wait, so we didn't lose to West Ham in the playoffs last season? Odd, I must of dreamt that.

Sarcasm aside, my point was about this season. Malky had designed a team that gotten themselves into the playoffs again, and still in my opinion might of gone further if it wasnt for our dip in form surrounding our league cup exploits but that's besides the point. On that basis, Malky did a good job that season. Not excellent because I feel our backbone of Marshall, Hudson and Whitts carried the squad heavily for large periods, but good because he carried out his job of very quickly cellotaping the holes in the squad shut.

Thing is, a lot has changed from last season to this. Not to mention the job of this season is completely different to the one of last season. 11/12 we all had very low expectations of what we could do and he did well with that. But to deal with high expectations of success is different, and many managers have shown in the past that making a bad team good doesn't mean you'll be able to make a good team excellent.

I genuinely believe now the pressure has cracked Malky. He's been given all the money in the world and has made a bit of a hash of it, bringing in multimillion players that apparently are only good for the bench. He was then given the opportunity to fix any problems in the January window, and while Campbell was a good move that gaping hole in defence is still wide open because the only defender he brought in may not even exist looking at his zero appearances since joining. I could list the critisicisms I have in full but it would take me all day. The only one I will mention is if everyone is so confident we don't have the best team in the league, why hasn't Malky fixed it? The 'all players are overpriced in January' excuse isn't worth the paper it's written on - what's having to pay over the price for a few players compared to guaranteeing winning the League? Funny a man that is apparently so keen to not overspend also spent 2 million pounds on a striker who's yet to start a game.
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