Violent threats at the KCB meeting?

That's what they're saying over on CCMB.

Allegedly by "pro" reds. I didn't even know any existed.

I see you're being one of the voices of reason on there Officer. Some wild over reacting considering the facts aren't known and typically TLG is s**t stirring with his little enigmatic snippets.

Someone get Ross Kemp in. Propah nawty gangs running amok.

It's still strange that some people felt the need to disrupt this meeting. Is there more to this KCB campaing than their public manifesto suggests?

It'd be nice to get some actual facts about what happened rather than third-hand bites of info.

Just find it hard to imagine Gwyn and Corky standing up during a meeting and threatening people with violence for no reason. Plenty of people on the CCMB have taken the whole report as gospel already though.

blueblade just posted his account of what happened:

"Shambolic!

I went with an open mind and to see if protests could be achieved in a peaceful way.

The meeting was disrupted from the start by Gwyn and his merry mob, to the point that they threatened to "do anyone" who even takes a banner into the ground.
The poor fella trying to chair the meeting (Scott?) just didn't stand a chance.

In the last 4 days I have now witnessed bullying from both camps - its no wonder so many are so-called reluctant reds or choose to sit on the fence.

Some of those making threats tonight, I have known for years and drunk with them and travelled with them.

Well no more.

Maybe things have calmed down by now but I very much doubt it."

It's crazy but it really is looking like Gwyn stood up during the meeting and threatened people! Gwyn's been through a very tough time recently with the loss of his daughter, surely that is affecting him?

I don't like KCB, I've never hid that. I dont like them because of some of the plans attempted to be imposed by some members, but I'll never impose on their right to stand up against the change. Violence on either side isn't acceptable, and if this is what's happened people should definetely be banned.

This however shouldn't be spun purely on the 'pro-reds'. I know of several people that have been threatened with violence by KCB supporters for wanting to wear red shirts and the like.

This fan turning on fan business, if it turns out as bad as it looks right now, is really destroying my spirit for the club if I'm honest. I'll see how things pan out but this really isn't what I became a fan for, and it's a shame.

This is ****ing disgusting. Genuinely embarrassing and a complete disgrace. Just.... ugh.

KCB have brought this upon themselves IMO. They knew such a group would bring this reaction and thats why they did it.

All fans should have kept independent and sent emails to the club and media, not formed a group of allegiance. They've caused a divide in our fan base.

Its terrible and one of the reasons I never go involved with KCB. I share their views but ill air them in a responsible way.

It's beyond me why grown men cannot accept that other people have differing opinions. Like the apparent majority I'm not pro red, but I am willing to go along with it. However I have absolutely no problem with anyone that wants to stand up and fight the re branding. If they feel that strongly about it then fair play to them.
Any one that's found out to have made threats of violence against other City fans should be banned from the club. No one should have to put up with that.

Well NigelBlues posted a more level headed account of what happened at the meeting and I respect NB so I'd be inclined to believe his version of events.

He wrote:

"I was in attendance and it was a thoroughly depressing event. The only thing it has achieved is ensure any open forums and public meetings cannot continue.

Unfortunately a group turned up hell bent on causing disruption and trying to take over the meeting. Why they felt the need to travel down from the Valleys and other parts just to do this and stop Cardiff City fans talking about how we can peacefully and legitimately protest to try to get the club to return to our lifelong colours in the future, only they will know.

They were no direct threats towards KCB, just inferences and at times, it did get very heated. Sad, just sad.

There were two ironies;
1. They would all like us to return to Blue too. They just don't want to get campaign over it which is fine. That is respected, apparently it's not reciproval though.
2. They were telling us how it could/would disrupt the players when they were no calls for protests inside the ground or druing matches.

It's a sad day when a group of Cardiff City fans cannot have a peaceful meeting to discuss peaceful aims without other Cardiff City followers wanting to destroy it. Yes it was the usual few. I spoke to them all individually afterwards and we all had a decent chat. I'm just perplexed why they came just to behave like that but I'm sure they feel they achieved something.

Thing is, they haven't - KCB will continue. The cause feels right to many, the way it choose to behave is respectful and spot on and the way people like myself feel just will never alter but others wanting a shouting match.

It's a real pity as we're all Cardiff fans, we all want the club to succeed but something imposed on us in an underhand, ridiculous way has caused divisions. I still don't understand why some choose not to respect we all feel differently about it but there you go.

This isn't something fans should be fighting amongst themselves about but we have some who seem prepared to do just that. Only at Cardiff, I tell you."

Colonel Cardiffi wrote:I see you're being one of the voices of reason on there Officer. Some wild over reacting considering the facts aren't known and typically TLG is s**t stirring with his little enigmatic snippets.

I have tried to draw him out from his Vivarium, but have so far been unsuccessful.

TLG is a very good bloke. He lives and breathes Cardiff City. I disagree with his martyrdom over this issue, but honestly he is quite genuine about it.

Only he won't respond!

Rich Munn wrote:

Colonel Cardiffi wrote:I see you're being one of the voices of reason on there Officer. Some wild over reacting considering the facts aren't known and typically TLG is s**t stirring with his little enigmatic snippets.

I have tried to draw him out from his Vivarium, but have so far been unsuccessful.

TLG is a very good bloke. He lives and breathes Cardiff City. I disagree with his martyrdom over this issue, but honestly he is quite genuine about it.

Only he won't respond!

He just really annoys me with his snide remarks and the way he'll quote just a tiny piece of someone's post and have a go at that whilst ignoring the entirety of someone's points. I can just imagine him sitting back with a s**t-eating grin over tonights events thinking that the actions of a noisy few is vindication of everything he's ever thought about the rebrand.

The media story

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2012/07/24/91466-31466870/