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PostSlimfrog's Son™ Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:37 am

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So. From 5 games in charge, Coleman has lost five. Today's match was our heaviest loss since 1997 against a team that haven't scored in 8 out of their last 10 matches. Defensively we were inept and we were abysmal in our organisation. But is it too early to call for him to go?

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PostNN2Red2 Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:35 am

Arkay v2.0 wrote:Serbia are a good side, no doubt, but their recent record was fairly poor and some bookies were even favouring Wales for a cheeky win. While we have always lacked strength in depth there's no doubt there are some very talented individuals within the side playing at a decent level.

Playing to our potential we should be able to give any side a competitive game (see England last year and previous results in time against Italy, Germany, Spain as well as wins against middling nations such as Finland, Norway, Scotland etc). Admittedly, there were a few absentees last night but by all accounts the abject capitulation of the team was way below acceptable.

While we will never be favourites to win any qualifying group I don't think it's unreasonable for us to expect to at least be challenging for a play off spot. It would require us to have minimal injuries and play at our best in every game but can anybody, honestly say they see Chris Coleman as being the man to produce that kind of form out of this team? There's no doubt that Gary Speed may have found the fixture equally as difficult but there is also no doubt that he had a vision, a style of play and had made the team competitive - the latter being the least thing us fans expect from the National Team.

I'm all for giving managers a chance but I really am struggling to see on what basis for success was he ever given the job in the first place and how five very poor performances (including one hammering) is a foundation for building future success. What positives are there to take from these games? The only possible glimmer of hope for me right now is that it can't get any worse...

...can it?

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PostArkay Dubya Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:45 am

NN2Red2 wrote:
Arkay v2.0 wrote:Serbia are a good side, no doubt, but their recent record was fairly poor and some bookies were even favouring Wales for a cheeky win. While we have always lacked strength in depth there's no doubt there are some very talented individuals within the side playing at a decent level.

Playing to our potential we should be able to give any side a competitive game (see England last year and previous results in time against Italy, Germany, Spain as well as wins against middling nations such as Finland, Norway, Scotland etc). Admittedly, there were a few absentees last night but by all accounts the abject capitulation of the team was way below acceptable.

While we will never be favourites to win any qualifying group I don't think it's unreasonable for us to expect to at least be challenging for a play off spot. It would require us to have minimal injuries and play at our best in every game but can anybody, honestly say they see Chris Coleman as being the man to produce that kind of form out of this team? There's no doubt that Gary Speed may have found the fixture equally as difficult but there is also no doubt that he had a vision, a style of play and had made the team competitive - the latter being the least thing us fans expect from the National Team.

I'm all for giving managers a chance but I really am struggling to see on what basis for success was he ever given the job in the first place and how five very poor performances (including one hammering) is a foundation for building future success. What positives are there to take from these games? The only possible glimmer of hope for me right now is that it can't get any worse...

...can it?

Kenny Miller wearing a big smile! Serbia 6 - 1 Wales - Page 2 4268314175

(He knows the ground even if the nets are not close friends Serbia 6 - 1 Wales - Page 2 692773407 )

Serbia 6 - 1 Wales - Page 2 692773407 If there's one thing that Wales can guarantee, it's the opposition finding their scoring boots.

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PostAlbany Blue Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:47 am

Great post Arkay!

I'm personally just being patient, I didn't expect much from this campaign apart from the odd win against Macedonia and Scotland. I am willing to let Coleman keep the job to see what he can do over time. The problem is, who would we realistically have instead of Coleman?
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Postthewelshfella Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:21 am

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Post*** G L O V E S *** Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:24 am

I booed the players off the field. What an abysmal performance that was!
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Postthewelshfella Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:26 am

You went to the game Gloves?
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PostSteWells Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:07 am

How the hell did he get the job in the first place? What's he ever done as a manager?

He got it because he's Welsh. I'm going to apply next time. I'm Welsh, have played semi-professionally, and I've got a good record on the Football Manager games. I bet I make the shortlist!
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PostTyrion Tannister Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:28 am

To be fair, he's had a reasonable managerial career. He impressed at Fulham considering how awful they were when he started, and Larissa (the Greek side he managed) absolutely adored him. But it does appear like the task of moulding a Welsh side full of promise into something truly competitive was slightly out of his depth.

...he was shocking at Coventry City mind.
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