14 games to play - what chance of survival?
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- G-sterClub Legend
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City have 21 points after 24 games.
In all but one of the past six seasons 37 points was enough for survival (it was 40 in 2009/10), so how many could be earned in the last 14 matches?
My estimate:
Home
Villa – draw = 1
Hull – win = 3
Fulham – win = 3
Liverpool – loss = 0
Palace – draw = 1
Stoke – win = 3
Chelsea – loss = 0
Away
Swansea – draw = 1
Spurs – loss = 0
Everton – loss = 0
WBA – draw = 1
Southampton – loss = 0
Sunderland – draw = 1
Newcastle – loss = 0
Total = 14 points
Sadly, I don’t think 35 points will be enough.
In all but one of the past six seasons 37 points was enough for survival (it was 40 in 2009/10), so how many could be earned in the last 14 matches?
My estimate:
Home
Villa – draw = 1
Hull – win = 3
Fulham – win = 3
Liverpool – loss = 0
Palace – draw = 1
Stoke – win = 3
Chelsea – loss = 0
Away
Swansea – draw = 1
Spurs – loss = 0
Everton – loss = 0
WBA – draw = 1
Southampton – loss = 0
Sunderland – draw = 1
Newcastle – loss = 0
Total = 14 points
Sadly, I don’t think 35 points will be enough.
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I agree with your predictions, although I think we will draw with Newcastle and Southampton and beat West Brom, giving us 39. Possibly that could be good enough!
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I think we will go a run of games winning, we will stay up
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Horrible feeling that those dropped points against Sunderland and West Ham (twice) are going to come back to haunt us......
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my fears too, but also think we can do it
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Your estimate looks pretty good G, but its also only two points short of that regular 'finish line'. Turn one draw into a win or a couple of losses into draws and we're suddenly there (Could also go the other way but lets not think about that.
Compare it with our rivals - Fulham look pretty screwed with games against Man United, Liverpool, West Brom, Chelsea, us, Newcastle, Man City and Everton in that order over the next two months. Thats a confidence killer if you've ever seen one.
West Ham have a nice couple of months like us, but then culminate in two months of hell - Liverpool, Arsenal, Palace, West Brom, Spurs, Man City. They need to pick up points quickly, as they'll be lucky to get more than four or five over the last two months.
West Brom are somewhat neutral, having an equal mixture of 'easy' and 'difficult' games. Their home matches are horrible though - Chelsea, Fulham, Man Utd, us, Spurs, West Ham and Stoke. They are going to be forced into picking up large amounts of points away, and they've struggled to do that so far.
Crystal Palace may have the hardest home run of all - West Brom, United, Southampton, Chelsea, Villa, Man City, Liverpool. They are looking at 6 points as a maximum, and again are relying on away form.
Compared against them, we have a nice home run in with only the two matches probably out of our league. I think many of the others around us are going to start struggling too. At this point in time I think I will be just fine.
EDIT - Things also look bleak for Norwich. They play 4 of the current top 6 in their final four games of the season, and theres horrible games everywhere else too. They could plummet.
Compare it with our rivals - Fulham look pretty screwed with games against Man United, Liverpool, West Brom, Chelsea, us, Newcastle, Man City and Everton in that order over the next two months. Thats a confidence killer if you've ever seen one.
West Ham have a nice couple of months like us, but then culminate in two months of hell - Liverpool, Arsenal, Palace, West Brom, Spurs, Man City. They need to pick up points quickly, as they'll be lucky to get more than four or five over the last two months.
West Brom are somewhat neutral, having an equal mixture of 'easy' and 'difficult' games. Their home matches are horrible though - Chelsea, Fulham, Man Utd, us, Spurs, West Ham and Stoke. They are going to be forced into picking up large amounts of points away, and they've struggled to do that so far.
Crystal Palace may have the hardest home run of all - West Brom, United, Southampton, Chelsea, Villa, Man City, Liverpool. They are looking at 6 points as a maximum, and again are relying on away form.
Compared against them, we have a nice home run in with only the two matches probably out of our league. I think many of the others around us are going to start struggling too. At this point in time I think I will be just fine.
EDIT - Things also look bleak for Norwich. They play 4 of the current top 6 in their final four games of the season, and theres horrible games everywhere else too. They could plummet.
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I got interested, so I did a league predictor. Its quite long winded at the moment but its a nice confidence booster - I had Cardiff to pick up 15 points, and that got them 15th place.
1 Man City 95
2 Chelsea 93
3 Arsenal 86
4 Liverpool 79
5 Everton 71
6 Tottenham 70
7 Man Utd 67
8 Southampton 64
9 Newcastle 62
10 Hull City 39
11 West Ham 38
12 Stoke 37
13 Swansea 36
14 Sunderland 36
15 Cardiff 36
16 C Palace 33
17 Aston Villa 31
18 Norwich 30
19 West Brom 27
20 Fulham 25
If you want to try yourself
1 Man City 95
2 Chelsea 93
3 Arsenal 86
4 Liverpool 79
5 Everton 71
6 Tottenham 70
7 Man Utd 67
8 Southampton 64
9 Newcastle 62
10 Hull City 39
11 West Ham 38
12 Stoke 37
13 Swansea 36
14 Sunderland 36
15 Cardiff 36
16 C Palace 33
17 Aston Villa 31
18 Norwich 30
19 West Brom 27
20 Fulham 25
If you want to try yourself
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Red614 wrote:I got interested, so I did a league predictor. Its quite long winded at the moment but its a nice confidence booster - I had Cardiff to pick up 15 points, and that got them 15th place.
1 Man City 95
2 Chelsea 93
3 Arsenal 86
4 Liverpool 79
5 Everton 71
6 Tottenham 70
7 Man Utd 67
8 Southampton 64
9 Newcastle 62
10 Hull City 39
11 West Ham 38
12 Stoke 37
13 Swansea 36
14 Sunderland 36
15 Cardiff 36
16 C Palace 33
17 Aston Villa 31
18 Norwich 30
19 West Brom 27
20 Fulham 25
If you want to try yourself
Interesting stuff. Maybe the cutoff point will be lower than normal this season.
Provides some hope anyway.
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Flair of G-ster and Red...........nice work chaps......
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Good work….made me feel a lot better reading your informative posts.
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Yes well said by both.
Other interesting points are what impact three matches without Andy Carroll will do for West Ham, and whether Swansea will benefit from the temporary appointment of Garry Monk
Other interesting points are what impact three matches without Andy Carroll will do for West Ham, and whether Swansea will benefit from the temporary appointment of Garry Monk
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That table would also leave a huge gulf between 9th and 10th position
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Slumdog's Son™ wrote:That table would also leave a huge gulf between 9th and 10th position
Bizarre..........two divisions in one!
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